Replying to LO24718 --
Dear Organlearners,
Ron Short <ron@learninginaction.com> writes:
>The letters between AM de Lange and Sajeela Ramsey are
>significant to me because they can represent what I believe
>a learning organization, at its core, is all about--that is, people
>learning from each other.
Greetings Ron,
I wondered by myself -- why the "from" and not the "with"?
Then I noticed that you have answered my question:
>This is learning from the 'we' of intersubjectivity and I view our
>ubiquitous collecitve iniability to learn in this mode as the major
>impediment to organizational learning.
In my mother tongue "leer van" (learn from) and "leer met" (learn with)
have such vastly different meanings that I often forget that it may not be
the same in other languages. Is it possible to confuse "learn from women"
and "learn with women"? Is it possible to live with women and not "learn
with women"?
Sometimes I wonder just how much Mental Models get carried over by just
using a particular langauge.
By the way, I have done it so long ago that I cannot even remember when.
The At is the shortest form possible for Adriaan. It is normally
pronounced like the "at" in "what".
In my mother tongue intonation is extremely important. My dear wife has at
least five different intonations for "At". The one which she let me know
that I have not learned from her is out and clipped in less than a
hundredth of a second. The one which let me know that I have to learn with
her, takes about a second, sounds like "aaaddd" and is slightly higher in
tone.
With care and best wishes
--At de Lange <amdelange@gold.up.ac.za> Snailmail: A M de Lange Gold Fields Computer Centre Faculty of Science - University of Pretoria Pretoria 0001 - Rep of South Africa
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