Replying to LO24727 --
And now, the LONG,
> Replying to LO24710 --Andrew said:
>
> At's and Sajeela's Ways of Learning LO24710 Yours and Mine
> (LO 24***) and
> another we shall not mention...
>
> My one thought is that probably the majority of people reading your latest
> contribution to the LO list will feel that you have articulated a portion
> of what they thought and felt too on the topic of which you have written.
> Though I lack the skills to make such an assessment myself, I would think
> that everybody on the list could assent to at least one sentence and
> possibly more. Maybe it as simple as to suggest that your particular
> intelligence and feelings shared today carries a good root of 'common
> sense'?
Andrew, I don't use the term 'common sense', myself. There is, perhaps, a
'common need' or 'common ground' for theory which can be practised.
> Just speaking 'off the cuff' my sensing offers me the view that you as a
> 'personality of responsibility' in an organisational setting (your
> mantel?) find implementation of theory into practice difficult as
> initiation, substantiation and eventual confirmation through the work you
> do? My wider sensing leads me to know you are not alone if that was the
> case.
Again, when theories are applied to organizations (such as Senge's Vth
Discipline, or Deming's System of Profound Knowledge) there is always some
difficulty in the form of resistance to change. The small changes add up
to 'bifurcations' (which I prefer to call transformations) which generate
some synergy, which leverages creativity, which brings smiles to faces on
the shop floor because of a job now more worth doing and in the board room
for a stock worth more.
> I would like to integrate with your thoughts expressed if I can, and I am
> 'being in the moment creative' here because I am still writing 'off the
> cuff'. I have to enter the qualification though (as I expect you may
> know), that some 'mantels of work' require the signing of certain
> documents that require certain persons to remain 'silent'. In this country
> it is called 'The Official Secrets Act'*. You will also appreciate that if
> say I happened to be a personal acquaintance of say Madonna, or George
> Michael who happenly lives down the road;-), or even for that matter Pope
> Gregory XIII who lives we no not where^ . it might have a 'nuance of
> effect' in much future dialoguing, in the first two cases among young
> 'surfers of the net' and in the latter, artists seeking papal
> commissions;-)
An aside: is that the Gregory of calendars, numes, and punctums?? I'd
have liked to know him.
> That said then. It seemed to a certain person that a certain strategic
> intervention might be made to the advantage of let us say
> another person
> of pedigree and promise, not only to his own legitimate interest
> (inter-est) but also that of a entire nation. Five great
> questions arose.
> What, When, How, Where, Why.
>
> The What Ancient 'wisdom', a few lines that which has
> stood the test of time.
> The When In the Now of then.
> The How A letter. Just enough to carry the few
> courteous lines.
> The Where *
> The Why What if?
>
> I think I can hear a virtual voice asking the words above, " And?"
>
> "YES!"
>
> The replies?
>
> Both LONG and SHORT (think long - act short <> think short - act long)
>
>
> I appreciate or acknowledge this may not be enough (((((((((
> : - ))))))))))))))))
>
> What did I both see and feel in the individual predicament
> that contained
> a better way for a larger whole? I saw a whole man with a long lever
> amidst the 'noise' of all life looking for a place to re-position his
> fulcrum.
>
> The wisdom in a 'nutshell' was to seek that 'pointless point' in the
> '(w)hole' in the center of his 'heart' and to know that no sane person
> much desires it different and, so 'leveraged' himself I
> happen to believe
> that the future of an entire nation has already altered for
> the better, if
> not the best. But it is for you to define both 'better' and
> 'best'. I may
> already have said too much and have to pay for it as a consequence.
>
> As a sagely person tells it, TIME WILL TELL US.
>
> (but we have to 'be there' and we have to 'be listening'
> which is just a
> form of vision...)
I understand that such a person would be both modest enough without the
secrets to continue teaching quietly, and somehow, because of the secrets,
capable of making even more change within a quiet teaching. As for better
and best, they can only be defined in the spheres my mind (or yours) can
touch.
Thank you for bringing this to the group. It is somewhat of a catalyst
for me.
John F. Zavacki
jzavacki@greenapple.com
OR (depending on my location in the space time continuum)
systhinc@msn.com
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