Thank you At, for your return post. This has helped me in 2 ways:
First, the time that you spent defining "aalopend" (continuous) and
differentiating it from "aahoudend" (continual), along with your
illustration was right on target for clarifying what I have seen as the
difference between the 2 concepts. Your formalization of my tacit
understanding was excellent.
At wrote:
>The translation for "aanlopend" is "continuous" and nothing more. Thus
>"aanhoudend" (continual) encompasses "aanlopend". The word "aanlopend"
>means a sort of gradual change. The word "aanhoudend" means gradual and
>jump-like changes -- changes which happen immediately (continuous) and
>changes whcih happen after some time and build-up have happened
>(saltitorial). The word "aanhoudend" also means something which persists
>with or without a consequence while the word "aanlopend" means something
>which changes all the time. A mother would say of her child that his/her
>"aanhoudende gekerm" (continual complaining) would eventually push her
>over the edge, but she would never say "aanlopende complaining". A
>"continuous complaining" (aanlopende gekerm) would simply mean incessant
>complaining and nothing else.. A "continual complaining" (aanhoudende
>gekerm) would mean a complaining at every favourable opportunity. A baby
>which cries "aanlopend" would soon (after a few hours) compel the mother
>to consult a doctor, but a baby which would cry "aanhoudend" would rather
>test her patience.
Secondly, I want to thank you for clarifying the concept of complements
for me. As you have defined it, you are correct. I was trying to
articulate a complementary relationship between the 2. My original
statement would be more appropriately written, "...continual improvement
speaks to the PROCESS of improvement (always and forever ongoing, in all
of forms and in all places) rather than the STRUCTURE of the improvements
(continuous vs discontinuous)...".
At also wrote:
>Jon, I think that here is some misuanderstanding here. The words
>"continual" and "continuous" do have a complementary meaning, but in the
>sense of "general" and "particular". For example, "law" and "case" are
>complementary in this respect. It concerns the "many" in relation to the
>"one". The "all" cannot be understrood without the "one" and vice versa. ...snip...
>In my opnion the comnplementary for "process" is structure while the
>complementary for "nature" is culture. ...snip...
Jon Krispin
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