Was: Our founding discipline
As far as I understood, At de Lange discribed the development of a
discipline in terms of a loop:
> [natural object] -->-- [study] -->-- \
> | [discipline]
> [artificial object] --<--[study] --<-- /
Then he demands, that any discipline including system dynamics must take
the required creativity into account, that is necessary to run this loop
and to develop that discipline:
>If we do not make sure that System Dynamics is developed to cope with
>complexity, then it will be as useless as Newtonian Dynamics when we
>encounter real complexity. In my opinion any version of Systems Dynamics
>which do not give an account of creativity will not cope with complex
>systems of human organisations. That is why I spend so much time on a
>systems thinking in which creativity plays an essential role.
I just recognised the possible connection of above loop with the five
sustainers of creativity, supporting the connection between those five
sustainers and the five chinese elements, that I made a few month ago:
natural object - game playing - fire
study - dialogue - soil
discipline - problem solving - metal
study - exemplar studying - water
artificial object - art expressing - wood
It still makes a lot of sense for me.
Regarding the relation between the five chinese and five (not four) greek
(I think hermetic) elements, I guess the following correspond (first is
chinese):
fire - quinta essentia (the element that is in all others), no magical symbol
soil - soil (the element, in which all others are), symbol: coin
metal - air, symbol: sword
water - water, symbol: grail
wood - fire, symbol: a wooden rod
I think that these sets are early successes of humane cultures to discribe
system dynamics in a way that correspond to creativity in such a way, that
humans became able to willingly influence reality and its systems
including other humans.
With some more study, it should be possible to grasp how important and
influential these sets were for the development of our history.
Liebe Gruesse,
Winfried
--"Winfried Dressler" <winfried.dressler@voith.de>
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