Dear Lo'ers,
In my search for clarity of characteristics of each of the 7 axes (named
'essentialities) of the creativity-space (thus 7-dimensional), At
responded some other wise words:
> Leo, I had to snip your summary. But I want to draw your attention and
> that of fellow learners to the fact that you have used the other
> essentialities (like wholeness) to enrich your insight on spareness. Now
> what has happened here? You are thinking NON-LINEARLY.
I had a big smile. My whole life and thinking is a continuous
multidimensional meandering. I have indeed difficulties with straight
lines.
If we number the axes of the 7-dimensional space:
1. "becoming-being"-(liveness)
2. "identity- categoricity" - (sureness)
3. "associativity-monadicity"-(wholeness)
4. "connect-beget"- (fruitfullness)
5. "quantity-limit"- (spareness)
6. "quality-variety"-(otherness)
7. "open-paradigm"- (openness)
At forced me to think only in (0,0,0,0,n,0,0), along the axis of
spareness, whereas I left it and was somewhere at (0,1,3,1,11,0,0). I hope
to be able to think one-dimensional (linear) again; that is a tough task.
(I hope you realise that I write this with a grin).
I realise that particularly with the essentiality spareness, it is a great
mistake to pull the other essentialities into its characteristics.
> You have used the other essentialities to summarise spareness. In other
> words, the essentialities are not independent. It means that some basic
> relationship must already exist between them. What is this relationship?
> They all play a role in the production of entropy! Your summary itself is
> a second order relationship. Therefore the summary is a non-linear
> relationship.
But as you may realise, any reaction on your original message is a result
of entropy production. It is the paradox of thinking. I must force
to slow down the flow within myself. Or maybe, I should limit the pulling
force of my formal knowledge.
I have skipped large parts of your clarifying answer. You have made very
usefull commends on the role and influence that questionaires may play!
And then, you come to the senses as measuring instruments:
> The three senses (see, smell, hear) are examples of non-destructive
> measuring instruments. Non-destructive measurements play the major and
> powerful role in modern physics, chemistry and engineering.
>
> But Leo, I think your question is concerned with secondary changes which
> may happen as a result of measurement.
You are right, that was my intend. I just saved a part of your answer:
> Thus,
> although the interaction between spectators and palyers are based on
> non-destructive measurements, it is the feedback loops based on these
> measurements which have such a powerful influence on the outcome of the
> game. Should we bring in the facet of imagination, the outcome can be
> influenced even more.
>
Thank you, that you opened my eyes to these feed back loops. We touch the
words of Jon Krispin about the behavioural sciences.
Some new elements are added to my tacit knowledge (by understanding, not
copying).
>
> >2. Has the twin syndrome as described in the Primer on
> >Entropy (LO19987) something to do with "spareness"?
>
> O yes, very much.
Fine, I am on the right linear track again. (I was at (0,0,0,0,11,0,0),
but with your extra examples I have surveyed (0,0,0,0,2-16,0,0).
I saved the following, because it forms such nice coherence for an other
subject, for another time:
> >3. In an earlier private correspondence with At, we discussed
> >briefly the parasythical relationships, which sometimes occur
> >between two persons. I mentioned then the relationship of the
> >famous sculptor Auguste Rodin with Camille Claudel. The
> >creativity of Camille was completely exhausted (At called Rodin
> >a vampire) by the intense relationship with Rodin. The creativity
> >of Camille ended, and she lived for nearly 40 years in
> >psychiatric institutions.
> >Has this also to do with "spareness"?
>
> Yes, again very much so. And again it has to with free energy, in this
> case for artistic creativity. You will remember that I called Rodin a
> "free energy vampire". I have explained that we have to recharce our free
> energy for creativity at the edge of chaos (far from equilibrium) by
> cycling back to creative changes close to equilbrium. We use up a lot of
> free energy to produce enough entropy to stay at the edge of chaos like
> Rodin. The recharging of our free energy has to happen close to equilbrium
> where the entropy production is low. If we spend too much time at the edge
> of chaos, or do not function constructively close to equilibrium, we will
> use up our own internal free energy resources. It is then when we might
> become scavengers or vampires of other people's free energy.
>
> We all have experiences and tacit knowledge of these "free energy
> vampires". They use you to produce entropy with your own free energy so
> that they can search for order in the manifested chaos. Although they
> succeed in turning your own life upside down, driving you crazy, they
> seldom find the order which they are seeking. The reason why they do not
> find the order is that this order have to emerge within themselves. Their
> own entropy production is the sign that they are ready for such an
> emergence. Why? The seven essentialities which are necessary for the
> emerge, are also necessary for producing the entropy.
>
This subject is dialogue and teamwork. Within a team there should be a
subtile balance of production and consumption of free energy. The free
energy of each team member, and the free energy of the team as a whole.
Maybe this is a topic for further dialogue on this list.
The last part of At's message could be such start:
> Sit back and take stock of the people in your family, work and society who
> try to disturb your life so that they might have order themselves. Since
> they have become free energy vampires because one or more essentialities
> are seriously impaired for them, try to discover those impaired
> essentialies. It will help you to lessen their disturbing influence on
> your life. For example, say that the wholeness of a free energy vampire is
> impaired. When that person try meddle in your life again, resist it,
> saying to the effect that wholeness is too important for you to allow such
> a meddling in your life. I use the phrase "to the effect" because you will
> have to refer indirectly to wholeness in terms of the actual impaired
> behaviour of the person such as fragmentations or broken associations.
>
Thank you for the fine reply. I know of the joy which spareness could give
and even a linear track does have its endless horizons.
dr. Leo D. Minnigh
minnigh@library.tudelft.nl
Library Technical University Delft
PO BOX 98, 2600 MG Delft, The Netherlands
Tel.: 31 15 2782226
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