Replying to LO24277 --
Dear Judy, At and all others seeking for dearness,
i cannot stop myself from noting that this is the time - spring - for
reflection, preparing for compassion. Although i think it is far from me
to say what people should manifest, i know from experience that one or two
people were able to cause me to have deep compassion just by saying it.
But, i must admit, it had taken me years of preparation and a final five
days training. And also these persons were deeply compassionate
themselves. However i do not think that compassion is a special ability, a
unique talent, that it requires will-power or long study. My guess would
be that everybody is compassionate in his or hers own ways and means.
Compassion, deernis, is some how at the root of life. Perhaps it coevolved
with fear. Didn't The Buddha, out of compassion for us, human beings, stay
around, for he was moved to pity (= "meedelijden" = "deernis" =
compassion)?
I agree on the worth of studying the language as one of the ways to
prepare. I suspect that the meaning of words and their roots is far from
superficial and that the meaning of these former animal sounds has been
shaped, distilled, formed, over many generations of use. The poets,
singers, sages and kings that invented, sang, thought up, coined the words
were not blind - whether they could see or not - and probably deeply
compassionate. Also studying, learning about words will make you say them
again and again, reinforcing meaning inside your brain.
Kind regards,
Jan Lelie
On:
> At 11:52 At de Lange AM 3/29/00 +0200, you wrote:
>
> >Dear fellow learners, do you think that saying to people that
> >they should manifest "deep compassion" ("deernis") will be
> >sufficient to cause them to have "deep compassion"? Is there
> >not a kind of "preparation" necessary before "deep compassion"
> >can emerge? Will a study of languages be worthy for such a
> >preparation?
>
to which Judy replied:
>
> Dear At,
>
> I'm afraid the answer to your questions (I counted at least three just in
> this short paragraph) will be NO.
>
> In practice, I found out that "SAYING TO PEOPLE" is not very efficient if
> I want to cause things to happen - rather DO - MANIFEST!
>
> In my experience, I found out that STUDY (you offered languages, which by
> itself is worth studying) has little to do with LEARNING. And LEARNING is
> what you're seeking, aren't you? What I'm suggesting here is that
> "studying IMPLIES learning" is many times a FALSE proposition.
>
> Last, but not least - HAVING compassion can be caused by FREE WILL only.
>
> And finally a YES - I find your contributions in linguistical issues very
> interesting. Many words (not in a given context or a specific language)
> sound the same and can be distinguished only when written down - when
> spelled.
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