Replying to LO24708 --
Dear Organlearners,
Conrad Braun <cbraun@powersurfr.com> writes:
>Dear At and Sajeela et al: The way that Sajeela made
>some of her points in this communication appears to be
>following the guidelines for authentic communication/dialogue
>that coincides with the work of Scott Peck and the Foundation
>for Community Encouragement.
(snip)
>Inviting, rather than imposing, instructing or commanding
>whether intended or not is also recommended (this goes
>to power and control issues that might exist for someone
>subconsciously or from some cultural source).
Greetings Conrad,
Thank you very much for your fine input.
Your "imposing, instructing or commanding" let me think of
declarative, interrogative and imperative sentences. How can we
avoid simple sentences like statements (declarative), questions
(interrogative) and commands (imperative)?
One way is to say or write nothing -- to let knowledge remain
tacit.
Another way is to use body language and sounds like the Namas
do or even to use complex music and dancing without any explicit
wording.
A third way is to weave statements, questions and commands
into a response. Is the ultimate not to do this in every sentence
which we use? When a sentence is for example a question, but
actually becomes a statement or command on reading it, will
fellow learners know not to handle it superficially?
A fourth way is to extend sharp logic into fuzzy logic in its dazzling
diversity of possibilities. One such a possibility is to make use
of modalities, to INVITE or to urge, to call upon some or many, to
qualify with uncertainties or possibilities, etc.
A fifth possible way is to express the feelings giving rise to our
expressed thinking rather than expressing the actual thinking.
Can we recommend that any one way such as the few listed above
will lead to better authentic dialogue than the other ways? I do agree
that inviting is a powerful way to initiate Team Learning. Do you not
think that since it is a powerful way, it can also become abused? Are
there not poems (like "Lorelei") and dramas (like "faust") in Western
literature warning us about such abuse?
I keep on asking myself: What do make mental behaviour in
individuals (members) and communities (organisations) authentic?
Can we asume that what apply for communties in the USA should
also apply for communties elsewhere like the Namaqualanders in
South Africa?
>I have experienced considerable struggle with growth in this area,
>but each step has been a tremendous joy for me - and I anticipate
>further progress - having the assistance of others with whom I have
>journeyed has been difficult to accept at times - but again well
worth
>the effort. Yours in learning community building- Conrad Braun.
I want to use myself here the Hebrew word for "let this be" -- amen.
Perhaps Judy can tell us more about the "amen".
I think that the Namas also have a body language and sound for it,
but I will first have to clear it up with my friends Jasper Nieuwoudt
and Oom Andries Coetzee who lived many years with them and
not a few weeks like me.
With care and best wishes
--At de Lange <amdelange@gold.up.ac.za> Snailmail: A M de Lange Gold Fields Computer Centre Faculty of Science - University of Pretoria Pretoria 0001 - Rep of South Africa
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