Replying to LO26328 --
Hi At
AM de Lange wrote:
> Gavin Ritz <garritz@xtra.co.nz> writes:
>
> >I have not been able to find your last two essentialities
> >on the archive. That is quality-variety and open-paradigm.
> >I am trying to see how your essentialities interconnect with
> >some of the business models I work with.
>
> Greetings dear Gavin,
>
> I do hope that the seven essentialities will be of value to you.
Well in your terms I have made many connect-begets with my work.
I have read them (except the last two ) all to see if I can use them in
business. I recognised your moncat patterns, and realised that the being-
becoming is just the same as structure- process and further more your LEC
and LEP is identical to the business theory of EKS the "twins". In fact
the originator of EKS says that Prigogine's theories actually corroborate
EKS findings. Scarily so. But EKS is just focused on business models. EKS
is modeled on layers of complexity of process- structure (LEP) over
energy. (LEC)
> You are right -- I have stopped at the fifth one (spareness) trying to articulate
> them. With all the objections by dr Steve Eskow, I began to wonder at the
> wisdom of trying to tell what we know, but cannot tell.
When has objections stopped you At? I have objections too, life is full
of mental lethargy and mental blockages, is this not the essence of
otherness.
> Anyway, I think that
> by supplying fellow learners with both their nominal names (otherness and
> openness) and seminal names ("quality-variety" and "open-paradigm"), they
> will be able to draw from their own experiences. For example, you have had
> some deep things to say on variety and how much it corrsponds to Rosh
> Asby's insights. Just continue on this path and you will excell in otherness.
> However, when you try to tell what you know, you will begin to exprience my
> dillemma.
Yes, openness does seem like a joker in the pack. I was wondering if some
of the work I am involved with is some sort of hindrance for openness. I
think the algedonic signal controlled by the amygdala in the brain is a
culprit here.
I have noticed a drill down in the algedonic (motivation) factors that
leads to autonomy, expression, creative expression and freedom to your
essentialities.
Yes, I sometimes do experience that, most times I have given up, I am not
so keen these days to share too much information. When I am called in for
a consultation I don't even tell clients what theories or models I use. I
just do the best I can for them under the circumstances.
> For example, one of the mosty beautiful examples of otherness is the rainbow.
> Try to tell a blind person what the rainbow is about! It is not only words which
> are insuffient. Ask Andrew Campbell how easy or difficul) it is to paint or
> photograph a rainbow ;-)
>
> In a reply to Karen Roles under the topic "Learning and Grace. LO26243" I have
> tried to focus more than the usual on openness so as to help you to get your
> thoughts going.
I don't follow all the threads my day is often too busy for that. But I
will have a look thanks.
> As for me, I often get the feeling that openness is among the
> seven essentialities like the joker among a pack of cards. It always upset me
> at the inconvenient moment, forcing me to take into account things which I have
> been oblivious to or considered as unimportant.
I am still pretty keen to read your comments about the last two
essentialities.
> >I trust you are well and fully on the way to recovery.
>
> Thank you for your kind words. I am recovering, but as usual I am far too impatient
> with myself to be good for me.
>
> Our physical health are dear to us. But so is also our spiritual health. After fifteen
> years of contemplating the seven essentialities, I now realise how important they
> are to our spiritual health.
If we don't have our health we have nothing, how right you are. The one
compliments the other.
Keep well.
Has your book been published yet?
Kindest
gavin
--Gavin Ritz <garritz@xtra.co.nz>
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