a long remembered post LO29467

From: AM de Lange (amdelange@postino.up.ac.za)
Date: 11/07/02


Replying to LO29455 --

Dear Organlearners,

Andrew Campbell < ACampnona@aol.com > writes

>This business of Time/time in physics is one reason why I
>persevere in understanding the work of CETA research
>people like peter Beamish on the time list intellectually I'm
>lost with the maths...but working on a basic premise once
>offered by At, to look for patterns, I find I can intuit value
>laden notions from even the most abstract stuff. like ;-)

Greetings dear Andrew,

With Google i managed to get to the site of the CETA reaserch group.
It is at
< http://www3.nf.sympatico.ca/beamish/research/research.htm >
I had a long and thorough look at most of the papers at that site.

At "A BRIEF "TOMORROW" OF TIME ?"
< http://www3.nf.sympatico.ca/beamish/research/ps/ps105.htm >
Beamish writes:
>Time, the most elusive of physical quantities, is NOT, as its
>history would indicate, best described by the well known
>"Arrow of Time" (an "arrow" which travels from past to future).
>Similar to temperature, time has magnitude only (a distinct
>property of a "scalar quantity"). TIME HAS NO DIRECTION
>(no north, no south, no up, no down). Therefore one could not
>possibly "shoot" an arrow of time as no target exists which could
>be struck by such an arrow! We must search for a more suitable
>metaphor.

Andrew, when Eddington wrote about the "arrow of time", he was referring
to LEP (Law of Entropy Production) as time's arrow. By that he meant
except for time which has to increase from the past to the future, there
is only one other thing which does the same, namely the entropy of the
universe. Thus he connected the two with each other.

Humankind with their watches has made time something which increases
linearly, each next second as large as the previous one. However, the
entropy of an evolving system does not increase linearly. It has a rythm
from low to high production and back. This rythm has to harmonise in a
profiund manner with the entropy production of other systems in the
environment because the entropy of the the universe has to increase
steadily. This is in my opinion the reason for Beamish's RBC (Rythm Based
Communication)

By describing dancing changes in a system in terms of linear time rather
than comparing them with dancing changes in other systems, we lose our
wholeness with nature. That is why i never take a watch into any desert. I
have to live by the rythms of the desert and not the regular ticks of a
watch.

At ""TIME": A NEW LOGIC"
< http://www3.nf.sympatico.ca/beamish/research/ps/ps109.htm >
he writes
>All time is "now time."
This, i think, is going to confuse many. Is time a "becoming" or a
"being". I leave it up to fellow learners to answer this question for
themselves.

With care and best wishes,

-- 

At de Lange <amdelange@postino.up.ac.za> Snailmail: A M de Lange Gold Fields Computer Centre Faculty of Science - University of Pretoria Pretoria 0001 - Rep of South Africa

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