Replying to LO29865 --
Dear Organlearners,
Barry Mallis <theorgtrainer@earthlink.net> writes:
>We're there already where we chance to seek death. Listen,
>Rumi some 800 years ago said it all when he said that we
>must DIE INTO THIS LIFE. Die over and over again.
>Whatever on earth and in space did he mean, d'you suppose?
>
>Let me reword his verse:
>
>Die, die,
>whoever you are,
>wanderer, worshipper,
>lover of leaving. Die, though
>you have broken your vows
>a thousand times before!
>Die! Ours is not a caravan of despair.
Greetings dear Barry,
Thank you for these words.
I think we have to die off all which have been damaged or which can be
improved upon. Even our bodies do it regularly. Many of the proteins in
the body's tissues get replaced with fresh proteins, taking about one year
to do so.
>Listen, Andrew, all the grit, grease, nuts ;-) bolts (!) and
>ravings on this list fall away in the weightless sublimity of
>his intuition. Our Learning Organization becomes the battle
>between relativity (our desire in this moment to read, know,
>apply, exploit) and quantum mechanics with its principle of
>uncertainty. Rumi antimatter? What's the matter?
Perhaps a few thoughts once again on the Uncertainty Principle (UP) are
necessary. The UP of quantum mechanics does not mean, as the uncertainty
in its name suggests, that certainty has been lost forever. The UP says
that measurable quantities come in complementary pairs, like, for example,
position P and momentum M (or energy E and time T). When, during a single
measuring event the position P and the momentum M are determined, we
cannot know both with certainty. For example, the more certain the
position P is, the less certain the momentum M will be.
The UP is for me rather a warning to avoid reductionism in quantum
mechanics. By this i mean that should we measure, for example, the
position P with great certainty, we cannot calculate the momentum M from
it and be certain that it was the value during the measuring event.
The UP is for me also a hint to liveness ("becoming-being"), one of the
7Es (seven essentialities). In these complementary pairs of quantum
mechanical quantities, the one can always be associated with "becoming"
(like momentum) and the other one with "being" (like position).
Barry, you have associated the LO with relativity and uncertainty. If i
have to something similar, then i think of what i know and what you know.
I am relatively certain what i know and completely uncertain what you
know. When i want to know what you know with relative certainty, i have to
"forget what i know" because i cannot infer your knowledge from mine!
Once people of an organisation begin to share what they know in this
manner, they are on the voyage towards becoming a LO.
>The stream some several meters outside my back door
>remains covered in snow mostly, with several openings
>upstream where ice water flows quickly to the eye's
>touch. Brrrrr.
What a complementary pair do we have in the following:- You have the cold
with snow and ice while we here in Pretoria have a heat wave with
humidity. We sweat!
And my problem is double that of others. I am a diabete. I am also a
carnivore, forced by an allergy to insulin and its substitutes to avoid
all carbohydrates in my diet. Carnivores have a definite smell which warn
their prey to keep a safe distance away from them. Have you ever smelled,
for example, a lion? I can take a bath twice a day and use antiperspirants
profusely, but in hot weather like this they are pretty useless practices.
Should i have written tripe, forgive me and delete it. In hot weather like
this it is difficult to concentrate the mind.
With care and best wishes
--At de Lange <amdelange@postino.up.ac.za> Snailmail: A M de Lange Gold Fields Computer Centre Faculty of Science - University of Pretoria Pretoria 0001 - Rep of South Africa
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