Replying to LO29899 --
Dear Organlearners,
Andrew Campbell < ACampnona@aol.com > writes:
>So, dear Don, they will say that the (albeit unintended) slaughter
>of the innocent, singular or plural, is a necessary 'evil' on the
>long 'better' road to 'good'
> - which is a fine thing - save that thought - that no men can
>do 'good'.
>And so the circle turns from a constructive looking 'loop'
>(Varela) to a destructive looking 'noose'.
Greetings dear Andrew,
If we ever need a paradigm shift for humankind as a whole, it is from the
"destructive noose" to the "constructive loop". But i fear this shift will
be far more complex than the one from from the geocentric to the
heliocentric world view.
Firstly, we will need criteria to make sure that our actions are not
destructive, but constructive. (I personally think that the 7Es define
these criteria.) Secondly, we will need a practice by which everybody,
friend and foe alike, subscribes spontaneously to these criteria. I cannot
think of any other practice than the LO to accomplish this.
>The shortest sentence in the Bible, I believe I learned a few
>days ago is,
> 'He wept.' And, I think it refers to Jesus, on seeing the Temple,
>in Jerusalem for the first time? (At, can you help me with that?)
I think you are right. I will take a look tonight in my Greek bible to see
if it is also the case in the original text.
He wept because he wanted to keep his followers together like a hen does
with her chicks. He knew that with his coming death they would become
shattered in all directions.
>I have taken literally the advice of At about transdisciplinary
>learning - knowing full well I will never attain the statushood ;-)
>of 'expert' in any of them. Ho hum;-)
The idea is not to become an expert in any of the disciplines. The idea is
to explore regions which the expert cannot do because of being anchored by
his/her discipline to one region. Transdiciplinary thinking does not make
experts obsolete, but to put them to good use in a joint venture.
>Thirty years ago I made a brief study of the sub geometry in
>the Sistine Ceiling compositions. Finding it full of asymmetrical
>triangles. There is that famous image, God's hand reach toward
>Adam's - well, it's kind of binary, from left to right, it's sort of
>life and not life (yet) but in the becoming/being moment (present)
>a triangle happens, and that creates a new plane of meaning and
>possibility, so now thinking that spark grounding;-) I have to
>reveal my ignorance, and ask At about electricity. At, on earth;-)
>is it possible to have a 'positive charge' and without a 'negative
>charge' and either without a potentiating (?) 'neutral'? There
>is that phrase by Michelangelo , which effectively offers a vision -
>that the more he discharges creatively in this world diminishing one
>way ;-) so he increases into the next (increasing another) behind is
>left the stains of his Victory, like on the bandages of his life, our
>shared life.
Andrew, positive and negative changes can be separated by supplying them
enough energy by way of work. Pulling a comb through your hair is an
example. Furthermore, to keep them separated, an isolating medium (having
an extremely high resistance to the flow of electrical charge) is needed.
It is remarkable that Michelangelo depicts how God overcome the resistance
(lack of liveness -- "becoming-being") by reaching out to Adam's hand so
that effective contact (fruitfulness-"connect-beget") will be made. See if
you can trace the other five 7Es in that painting too!
>Sorry to have gone on so, but what else to do between 4.00
>and 6.00 in an unheated room surrounded by a colddarkness?
Here in Pretoria we wake up in sweat because of a heat wave which not even
the night can quench. But the same happens here -- once the mind begins to
work, it cannot be switched off that easily.
With care and best wishes,
--At de Lange <amdelange@postino.up.ac.za> Snailmail: A M de Lange Gold Fields Computer Centre Faculty of Science - University of Pretoria Pretoria 0001 - Rep of South Africa
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