Winfried Dressler wrote:
> Don Kerr wrote:
> > Kohn finishes the Appendix, "My point is that it is not at all obvious
> > what is meant by the phrase intrinsic motivation." ...Why does
> > it "feel" obvious, yet reveals itself intellectually as a complicated
> > tangle?
>
> This is a very interesting question. I think, intrinsic or extrinsic are
> misleading words with respect to not only motivation but generally to
> life, person, I myself...
>
----snip----
> Now, why does it "feel" obvious then? I think this has to do with the
> logical property of language to be precise and therefore to distinguish
> one from another (A is A, A is not NON-A, tertium non datur): So here am
> I, thats me and there outside are all the others - what do they/I want
> me/them to do? what are they / am I doing with me/them? This "I" is
> sometimes called "Ego". The credo of ego is "I am I (and not someone else
> and tertium non datur)" - to whom of us does this not feel obvious??
Winfried--
Not to disagree with your feelings about motivation, but to share a
reflection here concerning your phrasing, above. I was just browsing
through Ortega y Gasset as I was viewing the postings, and read something
I felt compelled to share here. Writing about "language, new linguistics"
and using, as an analogy, the language used between two lovers, OyG
writes, "Language is a social usage that interposes itself between them
[the lovers], between their two inwardnesses, and whose exercise or use by
individuals is predominantly irrational. The most scandalous and almost
comic proof of this is that we apply the words 'rational' and 'logical' to
our most intelligent behavior--when these words come from ratio and logos,
which in Latin and Greek originally meant 'speech,' a performance that is
irrational, at least on one of its contitutive sides and frequently on all
of them." The reference is from "Man and People" page 224, if you're
interested. Just a thought.
> Most religious traditions know about the illusion of ego and the flow of
> life. Thinking about IM may be one way to grasp this truth.
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