Gray Southon wrote:
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> The key issue about intrinsic and extrinsic is that intrinsic comes from
> the task itself, while the extrinsive comes through someone else
>
>
> Winfried Dressler wrote:
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> >
> >My intuition is, that motivation is between inside and outside, but I
> >couldn't realy fix it. You brought in the right word in the right place:
> >The task!
This has been quite a thread--waiting for the book dialog to begin has
been a journey within itself. I just want to respond and share some brief
reflections here. It occurred to me that focusing on intrinsic/extrinsic
is probably the source of our dilemma (and I think Kohn considered that
too). Motivations, like so many other natural human phenomenon, don't
occur in pieces (as Andy Wong has artfully reminded us). Reducing
motivation to two causal sources just doesn't seem to work for me. Again,
words don't seem particularly effective here (an artform is required,
perhaps), but I'll offer this--applying Ortega y Gasset's idea that "I am
myself and my circumstances" to the question of motivation, and defining
the "I" in this way, then:
I am the source of my motivations. When I am functioning as a couple or
group (family-unit, lover, team, workplace-unit, et. al.) then I and my
relationships (circumstances) are the sources of my motivations. When I'm
being poked, prodded and analyzed by a behavioral psychologist, then
perhaps that person becomes an important part of my circumstances and
cannot be removed from the source of my motivation. When I'm broke,
indebted, with family and fears to feed, then they are all part of my
circumstances--and fundamental to my motivations.
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