Hi Rol,
The truth is out there. There seem to be universal values for people, but
we seem to run into trouble when we strive for them. The moment i try to
convince somebody of my deeply held values, somebody else starts to try to
convince me of hers. But that wasn't what i wanted to hear.
On the other hand, sometimes, when i just work with people, try to sort
out things, get some structure, some idea of the problems and mplement
solutions, common values seem to be created. As a kind of by-product of a
change process. Like my mother telling me: "you do not know what freedom
is, because you didn't experience WOII". In the end we conclude: we really
have the same values. But only as the result of a development process and
not as a starting point.
Everybody has norms and values, and they seem to offer a quick way out, a
kind of summary, a check list, we live by. Don't steal, tell the truth,
care for your fellow men, treat your parents well. Values are person and
situation dependent. "Toutes savoir, c'est toutes pardoner", as we say in
Holland (to know every thing is to forgive verything).
So i guess that this universe doesn't give a damn for values, but we, as
human beings, cannot do without them. There is constant craving.
Take care,
Jan Lelie
"CARElate diversity"
> Steve Eskow pointed this out. I apparently missed it the first time. I
> will support Steve on this because about a year ago, If Price and I tried
> mightily and totally in vain to get people on the LO list to agree to ANY
> universal values. If there are no universal values, then absolute truth
> seems unlikely.
>
> As an incorrigible optimist, idealist, and (probably) moralist, I think
> there can probably be truths that in their context and in their time can
> be widely accepted. However, this is considerably less than Simon is
> striving for or claiming.
>
> I do, however, agree with Simon that we should nevertheless be striving
> for this self-same unarguable truth that does not exist. However,
> struggline to achieve this ideal is not the same as saying it really
> exists.
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