At de Lange wrtote:
> Simon, you surely raised some hairs on this forum! I can read, interpret
> and evaluate your statements calmly. But it is because of the theoretical
> framework which I use. Your unorganisation theory fits into my broader
> picture as a highly individualistic exposition of what happens far from
> equibrium when entropy production is high.
At, I am glad to hear that your views are sympathetic and convergent with
my own. I hope the hairs are being raised increasingly because of "Oh yes"
and not "urghh!".
> However, by presenting your unorganisation theory as the full picture
> ("unified theory"), you make it very difficult for others to understand
> you. The simple reason is that they have a lot of tacit knowledge which
> does not and cannot fit in with what you write. Much of this tacit
> knowledge has to do with conditions close to equilbrium when the entropy
> production is low.
I don't know what tacit knowledge is, please explain this term. If it is
situation and environment specific information then I would like to be
able to transcend it- I think that the fundamental flaws and fundamental
forces apply to all countries and companies in all countries and resonate
with amplified individuals in touch with their thoughts. It is only the
extent to which unorg is necessary and useful that varies- when visiting
South Africa I found a wide and deep need for unorg concepts such as
technological capitalism, the opportunity for all individuals to pursue
the opportunites, which is nearly universally required. Truth to me is
insight that comes from going beyond environment, beyond circumstance,
beyond type of work, beyond visible external manifestations of wealth and
worth, and finding things that people say, ah yes, those flaws also happen
to me over here, even though the author of them was over there.
> Simon, again I have to caution that when some country in the world is
> operationg far from equibrium (which is definitely the case in South
> Africa), it is happening in all other countries. And even in South Africa,
> while on many levels it is operating far from equilebrium, on some others
> it is operating close to equilibrium. To manage all these levels in the
> same manner will be most contraproductive. We must keep a balanced,
> unified mind at all costs.
I don't know when something is near to equialibrium- what is this state
and when does it arise? I am interested to find some limits to the theory.
> In fact, it will be very, very sad because, after all, we are of one
> world. Although different regions of this world act differently, we are
> all speeding to the great showdown or grand bifurcation in about fifty
> years from now. It is our grandchildren which will have to keep a cool
> mind in those days. And if we disqualify our insights by applying them
> where they cannot be applied, they will have so much more confusion from
> which to recover.
We are certainly are one world- national specific factors are an entry
barrier to getting ideas properly considered- people emphasize national
specific factors, not realizing that underlying truths transcend those
circumstances.
> What exactly will be the nature of this showdown? Nature complexifies
> itself by the production of entropy, following the route of a MINIMAL
> production. Human culture is also complexifying itself by the production
> of entropy, however, following the route of a MAXIMAL production. The
> showdown will be between nature and culture. Human culture will have to
> give in - your unorganisation on a scale so vast that it sends shivers
> down my spine. The sooner we realise it, the better it will be for our
> grandchildren.
Yep- I see some showdowns- not least of all the collapse of socialism and
all its varients in Europe when the single European currency hemorrages.
Then there will only be a viable choice between capitalism and
technological capitalism, and I know which most people will prefer.
I look forward to hearing about tacit and also about close to equilibrium.
regards sincerely Simon Buckingham
Technological capitalism in http://www.unorg.com/index3.htm
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