jan lelie wrote:
'As i wrote: perhaps asking the opposite question helps: is there a grace
to change? So, as i'm typing this, is it a Goedel proposition
(unprovable?)'
at de lange wrote:
Yes, yes, yes, you have the right to change!
This is the very essence of the essentiality "becoming-being". Being and
becoming must be balanced - the one cannot be stressed to the detriment of
the other. You are not only a being. but also a becoming. Your becoming is
not less important than your being. Should it become so, then since
"becoming-being" is one of the seven essentialities of creativity, you
creativity will be seriously impaired. Whenever you then try to construct
(emergently or digestively), destructions (immergences or consumptions)
will prevail.
artur ferreira da silva wrote:
And, of course, one has the right ( or the obligation ? ) to change
oneself. In what concerns changing the others, I would be more careful.
Some comments:
If one changes ( or becomes) he/she always change the others, in a "by the
way" sense. But one must be careful about not being "manipulative", and
about thinking that one has "the right to change the other". [ those that
for a long time imposed rules on you, were not trying to "change you" in a
certain direction ?]
The "changes" that one try to impose to others normally prevent the others
to really change. To change - in the sense of "becoming" - must be
directed from within. What one can do is to "facilitate" ( or to be a
"catalist", to use your own words). But this must be obvious to you, I
think, if you are following the TAO ( "the natural way of things").
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ thanks for flowing for change, jan, at and artur
let me add that this fork in my life, where i experience the leverage to
tip from the public friendly servant into becoming the intimate catalyst
of conviviality, togetherness in respect, maybe mover, i lack a simple
word for who i am, to label me when you meet me, to be reckognized.
i feel 'being to the flow' instead of 'being to the point'. that feeling
comes with feeling astranged-sensitive for emotions, fysical posture,
mental logic, spiritual presence of specific people in life. an old habit
of mine is taking one step back, flee into my head and talk, make mental
noise, trying to be logic. the emotions of the other person i 'feel' as
means to an end in a power dialogue. i try to buy time to reach the other
on a rational track, missing self to reach out, cutting off my emotions,
hiding my self, my body light as a balloon surrounding gas. i am a friendly
servant that does not serve his master of director. it is a habitual
ritual.
an other way is step in, approach the one that e-motes and be near. being
there and open (my self) up to be more responsive, listening, calm.
sometimes going on 'playing' or 'dancing' of 'singing' to ease the flow
out, the expiration, the out flux. the other person and i exchange
feelings along the pattern of a strange attractor [poincarre crosscut]
that has to do with opposing forces in dialogue.
an other step that 'breaks' with the old ritual is no longer stay in
dialogue, breaking it up. it feels as leaving the attractor that rules the
dialogue and switch offside to my own attractor. it is like leaving the
posititon of blocking the flow of the river, giving up. and too like
flowing in surrender to my own flow. i feel like failing to the pattern
that i adopted, forced myself into.
is it the the fork in the path where i may not change? neither my self nor
the other person(s)? is it a point where i feel challenged to [loose]
control? is it a point where more energy is needed to be? to step in? or
out? or aside?
imagine this process in an organization. a clientsystem of mine [? - where
i fit?] is changing from hierarchic to network steering. there seems to be
more 'space' for enterptreneurial activity, more 'space' for dissipative
processes / structures. convivial action where communication is supporting
the mutual arising is possible. 'hierarchic unequal' clusters or groups of
people feel it and do it. they sometimes behave as scared one step back.
for it feels strange, uneasy, unknown to act as equals in the journey of
innovation, change, fusion. i catalyse the consciousness of communicative
self steering by telling stories about ways of working and giving
direction. i catalyse by doing things and making the real acting like the
fantasy easy to do. that takes time and doing by leaving or doing by
undoing (wu-wei).
it feels as a grace to change, jan. and yet ... sometimes i bundle energy,
collect like a burning glass in a now here 'space'. it feels like like
unfolding the presence of change, calling for the force to start
transiting.
with another possible client i tried to open up the force to make a first
step towards an unknown way of working - the tao of a learnflow system.
several people experimenting with java (a communicative program
environment) for their own education were brought together. i forced the
subtle forces of orientation, trying to unite or attract (or force) the
present people to interdependent action. i felt cornered and floored by a
more directive 'brother' that promised a secure and expert way in to
co-ordination, centralized control that would benefit all present. my
efforts felt like abrasive paper friction motion.
my catalyst action follows and eases and strenghtens the flow of change
for others in the organization(s) i work with. it may lead, as they
experience it, to important changes in their life. do i have a right to do
that? this question arises now here. aware and more and more conscious as
i learn to be(come)?
tapping into the energy of the all, i feel like the butterfly contributing
to the storm by merely flapping my wings. opening up a way of being that
any one can see and be. seduce, invite, lead or paradox into a way that
fits the whole we live with. the whole that live us. the living whole. it
feels for me like living water. and the healthy and wholesome taste of
water guides me (does it really or am i just another comsumer whose taste
is served by perrier?).
now i may strip all poetry of this language and articulate this text as in
dayly work. than this all looks like a real illusion, fantasy,
imagination, non sense. does change exist in that 'flat' world? does
kinetic power and affectionate love exist in that work? is there any
organization? dissipation of energy in the mass of people? direction of
learning? curiousity, uncertainty, motivation?
when i am manipulative when i use my hands - and i like to speak by subtle
touching others - what are the 'hands' that manipulate an organization?
what fractal formula makes the organization reproduce itself as it does?
what 'hands' make aware of motion, of care, of force? it seems all so
clear and right when the process is natural. and yet i cannot reject all
other energetic processes (even my own doings) where anger, grief,
de-struction and damage occur and i am connected as a change agent.
thank you for letting me write out. thank you for reading me out, friendly
greetings, tzu jan
--taosnet@euronet.nl (tzu jan gieszen)
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