dialogue LO18283

John Paul Fullerton (jpf@mail.myriad.net)
Sat, 6 Jun 1998 12:10:06 -0500

Replying to LO18271 --

> As I read the newer positions triggered by Peter Senge's Fifth Discipline,
> the newer theories are David Bohm's version of Krishnamurti's version of
> the Indian version of dialog as deep listening to the other, with all the
> emphasis on hearing the other, appreciating the other, understanding the
> other: no cross talk, no challenge, since cross talk and challenge are
> not, in this version of dialog, dialog but "discussion," with that word's
> echoing of "percussion."

In imagining dialog, prompted in part through William Isaac's description
of the phases of dialog from his research at MIT, it seems to me that
whatever knowledge is contained among the members of the group may be
brought to the conversation in due time. Because of that, saying something
different than another may easily take place. The emphasis is not on
silencing another, only in bringing every possibility to attention.

For example

Jim: The business model we've been using prompts me to get in situations
with customers where I have second thoughts about following those methods.

Mike: Yes. I've had the same reaction in the phase "go for the bigger
sale".

Jim: Exactly.

Susan: Some of us don't have sales duties, so the view we have of the
mission is different.

Carmine: And I'd much prefer that we talk about what it's like to work in
the office all day without a chance to go outside.

Jim: We could trade.

Facilitator: Let's keep the conversation above the level of personal
responses, or keep that idea in mind.

Mike: What Susan said brings up a good point, we have to consider the full
utility of the business model or guidelines that we follow and not simply
react to elements within the model.

end of "quoted" conversation

What I mean to show is that Mike's expression eventually challenges (or
says something different) than Jim's. I'd like to say that it's the result
of increased understanding within the group or improved awareness of
what's being said.

Have a nice day
John Paul Fullerton
jpf@myriad.net

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