Subject: PDSA.. Do vs. Act? LO23161

J.C. Lelie (janlelie@wxs.nl)
Mon, 08 Nov 1999 10:30:47 +0100

Replying to LO23145 --

Hi Bob and co-learners

Thank you for your me-too thoughts, innovation is driven by mutating
messages. So, for instance, i would propose as an alternative this double
loop:

- Testing - Designing loop, repeat until improvements stop, then:
- Analysing (long tern results)- Reflecting - Facilitating -
Implementing loop and feed results into TD-loop.

> I'm glad we are having this discussion, since I have always found the PDSA
> cycle confusing. Without clogging up the net with more "me too" stuff,
> the cycle I find best for me is :-
>
> Plan
> Do
> Observe
> Reflect

My double loop is based on the idea that we alle have different world
views, derived from a collective sub-concious model, that is also the
basis of the Myers Brigges Types. So I agree with your colleague Bob.

> A colleague of mine (Bob Dick) not only has a variation on this (Plan,
> Act, Reflect, Conclude), but has linked the progression from each of the
> four activities (eg Plan to Act) with the four Myers Briggs temperaments.
> Very useful when you have a work team that appears unable to complete the
> cycle. The MBTI give you some clues where the problems might lie.

Kind regards,

jan lelie

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Jan Lelie

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